I was thinking exactly the same - the only Focus that quick as standard is the latest RS, but I'm not sure if anyone actually has one yet!Smartbear wrote:Wow, what Ford Focus does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds?goon wrote:I've had my M coupe nearly 5 years now,was looking at the 3 litre model but found it was no faster than my old Focus,then I drove the M and the howling,snarling acceleration clinched it.
I never realised they were that fast!
Hmm, cant have been that beast as that would make it near as dammit as fast as his z4MGuidoK wrote:Ford focus RS500 does 0-62 in 5.4 sec, so 0-60 probably a very low 5 sec.
Was for sale in 2010
Then again that has a 2.5L 5cyl turbo engine (volvo based block) with 345HP (fwd but with quaife LSD) and was build in a limited production run of 500 pcs. So that is a pretty special car, probably worth a lot more than a z4m as it's very rare.
So trading in that rs500 for a z4 3.0i is something only a moron would do...
The normal focus RS of that generation (305bhp) also was pretty fast.
It's been mentioned a few times but some of those Fords are fairly rapid and handle well. I was out with a Mk2 RS Focus last night - pretty tasty and if crackles and pops are your thing...Vanne wrote:Lol its still a focus..
Yes crackles and pops are great, but only if they are real as opposed to sounds that are generated to come out of the speakers..........might as well be a f**king diesel in that case!stevo///m3 wrote:It's been mentioned a few times but some of those Fords are fairly rapid and handle well. I was out with a Mk2 RS Focus last night - pretty tasty and if crackles and pops are your thing...Vanne wrote:Lol its still a focus..
Stevo
But would it be quicker than a 3.0Si with 265bhp and RWD - no probably not!goon wrote:280 bhp Focus st 2.5 it was quicker than 3 litre z4.
Pretty sure they were "real" - I was following a couple of cars back from him, couldn't hear his stereo from where I was!Mr Tidy wrote:Yes crackles and pops are great, but only if they are real as opposed to sounds that are generated to come out of the speakers..........might as well be a f**king diesel in that case!stevo///m3 wrote:It's been mentioned a few times but some of those Fords are fairly rapid and handle well. I was out with a Mk2 RS Focus last night - pretty tasty and if crackles and pops are your thing...Vanne wrote:Lol its still a focus..
Stevo
The ///M will NEVER depreciate. Limited numbers and short production run only = sound investment.Tusk wrote:My view when I was looking at Z's was the 3.0i and especially the 3.0Si is something like 90% of the car for 50-70% of the cost up front and 50% ongoing running costs (figures guesstimated for example)
For me, this time, the M was worth it. I wanted the engine, seats, 4 exhausts, hydraulic steering, bumpers etc. Individually those things aren't particularly grand (bar the engine) but all together they made the 10% worth he money.
No doubt the running costs are much higher for servicing an M.
I also think the M should depreciate fairly slowly so am hopeful to get a decent chunk of capital back when I sell. Not sure how the 3.0 cars will hold out.
Conversely you don't sound like you enjoyed the S54 or your M3 so maybe a waste of money upgrading to get the bug bears again? The Z4M is less resolved than an E46 M3.
If I had £1 for every time someone said "X can never go down ever!!!" I'd drive a Ferrari, not a BMW...dannytheduck1985 wrote: The ///M will NEVER depreciate. Limited numbers and short production run only = sound investment.
By that logic, the Alpina is an even sounder investment...dannytheduck1985 wrote: The ///M will NEVER depreciate. Limited numbers and short production run only = sound investment.
Yeah, but you still have to live with an Alpina all that time and not with the far superior MPerryGunn wrote:By that logic, the Alpina is an even sounder investment...dannytheduck1985 wrote: The ///M will NEVER depreciate. Limited numbers and short production run only = sound investment.
Broken record, Paul... at least it's not a beetle...pvr wrote:Yeah, but you still have to live with an Alpina all that time and not with the far superior MPerryGunn wrote:By that logic, the Alpina is an even sounder investment...dannytheduck1985 wrote: The ///M will NEVER depreciate. Limited numbers and short production run only = sound investment.
