Alpina Market Watch

[markeg]

Thinking of selling my Z4 Alpina...I bought it as I loved the sound of the M3 engine from years ago and was hoping to drive it more...but it's just sat in the garage....bought in March this year and I have only put on 200 or so miles.....

:? M3 engine :?

The only thing I can think of that relates to the M3 is that the block of the B3S engine used in the Alpina is a modified version of the block used in the US-spec E36 M3 bored out to 3.4l

Yep - I've heard it referred to an M3 engine before - the Alpina E5/2 engine in the Roadster S is based on the iron-block S52B32 that was used in the North American E36 M3 and is closely related to the USA-spec M52 engine.

 

[dkatwa]

Apologies...maybe I am mistaken about the M3 engine...the engine in my Z4 sounds similar to the M3 engines of the era...a deep bassy sound...that is why I assumed it was an M3 engine...took it out on Saturday for a short ride and it was a really enjoyable ride. I keep thinking I would never get one as good so why sell it?
Thing is, it shares the garage with a DB9 V and that always wins when it comes to engine sound....hence why I was thinking of selling as no point having two similar cars..but the Alpina is rare...decisions decisions...

 

[dkatwa]

Apologies...maybe I am mistaken about the M3 engine...the engine in my Z4 sounds similar to the M3 engines of the era...a deep bassy sound...that is why I assumed it was an M3 engine...took it out on Saturday for a short ride and it was a really enjoyable ride. I keep thinking I would never get one as good so why sell it?
Thing is, it shares the garage with a DB9 V and that always wins when it comes to engine sound....hence why I was thinking of selling as no point having two similar cars..but the Alpina is rare...decisions decisions...

Build #: 103
Reg Plate: OY04YCC
Exterior Colour: Black
Interior Colour: Red
Spec: Lux
Price: Not for sale as undecided
Mileage: 35,000
Location: London

 

[RJBaz 3.4]

Build #: 034
Reg Plate: FNO4 HVF
Exterior Colour: Blue
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 20,950
Mileage: 30,400
Location: Eagle Car Centre Limited, West Yorkshire
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182195993213#viTabs_0

 

[PerryGunn]

Build #: 034
Reg Plate: FNO4 HVF
Exterior Colour: Blue
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 20,950
Mileage: 30,400
Location: Eagle Car Centre Limited, West Yorkshire
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182195993213#viTabs_0

Excellent spot Robert - #034 was one of the 'missing' cars

 

[RJBaz 3.4]

Build #: 304
Reg Plate: FJ05 JSV
Exterior Colour: Swartz Black
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 16,250
Mileage: 59,206
Location: Norwich
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-ALPINA-3-4S-ROADSTER-Black-Manual-Petrol-2005-/291793932314?hash=item43f046101a:g:jvAAAOSwMmBVxeA1

 

[PerryGunn]

Build #: ??
Reg Plate: FJ05 JSV
Exterior Colour: Black
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 16,250
Mileage: 59,206
Location: Norwich
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-ALPINA-3-4S-ROADSTER-Black-Manual-Petrol-2005-/291793932314?hash=item43f046101a:g:jvAAAOSwMmBVxeA1

FJ05 JSV is #304

 

[Number5]

Build : ??? Edit #039
Reg Plate: HRZ 40
Exterior Colour: Black
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 15,750
Mileage: 51,000
Location: Notts
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bmw-Alpina-Roadster-lux-3-4s-300BHP-with-full-main-dealer-service-history-/112060555732?hash=item1a175461d4:g:irgAAOSwRgJXh8Re

 

[PerryGunn]

Build : ??? Not Quoted
Reg Plate: HRZ 40
Exterior Colour: Black
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 15,750
Mileage: 51,000
Location: Notts
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bmw-Alpina-Roadster-lux-3-4s-300BHP-with-full-main-dealer-service-history-/112060555732?hash=item1a175461d4:g:irgAAOSwRgJXh8Re

As far as I can work it out, possible build #s are 022, 023, 029 & 039

EDIT: Number 5 had response from seller and it's #039

 

[Number5]

Build : ??? Not Quoted
Reg Plate: HRZ 40
Exterior Colour: Black
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: 15,750
Mileage: 51,000
Location: Notts
URL of advert: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bmw-Alpina-Roadster-lux-3-4s-300BHP-with-full-main-dealer-service-history-/112060555732?hash=item1a175461d4:g:irgAAOSwRgJXh8Re

As far as I can work it out, possible build #s are 022, 023, 029 & 039

Well, my #019 was June 2004, so it will be an early one. - I've asked the seller !

How many of the 167 are now on your radar, Perry ?

 

[PerryGunn]

Well, my #019 was June 2004, so it will be an early one. - I've asked the seller !

Yours was built in Oct 2003 but UK registered 06/2004, the car on eBay was registered in April 2004 which, along with the interior/exterior colour helps narrow down the field to 022, 023 & 039, whereas 029 is only down as one of the possible build numbers because I don't have any details for it at all other than it being contemporaneous

How many of the 167 are now on your radar, Perry ?

We're missing details of 12 of the RHD cars now, thanks to Robert spotting #034 - doubt if we'll ever get them all as some are bound to have been written off

 

[PerryGunn]

I've updated the initial post with a summary of all the cars in this thread - I'll try to keep it updated but it may lag a little behind the thread

 

[markeg]

Perhaps indicate in the first post which are trade and which are private sales - we all know that dealers have a mark-up, but with having both in the mix, it tends to confuse the market trends and obfuscate the actual values ?

Also, quick question - are you tracking separately, or are you linked into the German register (can't recall the guy's name)?

 

[PerryGunn]

Perhaps indicate in the first post which are trade and which are private sales - we all know that dealers have a mark-up, but with having both in the mix, it tends to confuse the market trends and obfuscate the actual values ?

I'll add a T/P after the price to indicate this

Also, quick question - are you tracking separately, or are you linked into the German register (can't recall the guy's name)?

I'm in touch with Kees from Alpina-Archive and keep him updated with anything I find regarding the RHD cars and he lets me know if he finds out anything of interest

 

[Number5]

Build #: 207
Reg Plate: FJ05 JVD
Exterior Colour: Sterling
Interior Colour: Red
Spec: Lux
Price: 17,000
Mileage: 57,000
Location: Private Sale; Inverness
URL of advert: https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/bmw-z4-3.3-alpina-roadster-lux-/1179742971

 

[Number5]

Another one appeared on Ebay:
Build #: 192
Reg Plate: J777ESG
Exterior Colour: Sterling
Interior Colour: Red
Spec: Lux
Price: 13,999
Mileage: 78,000
Location: Bucks
URL of advert:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-BMW-Z4-Alpina-Roadster-3-4-S-Rare-Car-With-Lux-Pack-/162150844406?hash=item25c0f187f6:g:5OkAAOSw-YVXmb5ar

 

[Taz]

that looks ok for the money

 

[PerryGunn]

that looks ok for the money

It's another example that shows that Alpina prices are on the up, #192 was up for sale by Stratstone in Feb 2014 with 74,000 miles for just under £12k, they then increased the price by a few hundred in March 2014 and sold her, now here she is, over two years later at 78,000 miles, up for £14k at a non-BMW dealer

Not that I'm complaining about stronger prices... :wink:

 

[fluxco]

Can you guys help me price up my Alpina Roadster S #116?

It is a 2004 Alpina blue with 118k on the clock. I bought it with 60k and have owned it for nearly 8 years. Full service history with bmw specialists.

I have upgraded it with quaife diff, strong struts, koni ssk shocks with eibach springs (original springs also available).

I am thinking £11k, do you guys think I am in the right ball park?

 

[markeg]

Can you guys help me price up my Alpina Roadster S #116?

It is a 2004 Alpina blue with 118k on the clock. I bought it with 60k and have owned it for nearly 8 years. Full service history with bmw specialists.

I have upgraded it with quaife diff, strong struts, koni ssk shocks with eibach springs (original springs also available).

I am thinking £11k, do you guys think I am in the right ball park?

Without all the add-ons, I would say 9k - 10k (depending on condition). With add-ons, I would say 11k would be about right.
(and if you plan on removing the quaife, let me know :wink: )