The jab ..

[jabber]

They truly need to be de-funded.

Havent had a TV licence since Sept 2014 and I'm absolutely behind scrapping the whole lot, they are nothing but partisan propagandists. Looking forward to pretty much all the old media dying

I tend to get my news from several different sources and always understand that evey news outlet has their own political view which tends to colour the information provided. I’m interested where people who don’t use “mainstream media” get their info from

 

[Flyingfifer]

I tend to get my news from several different sources and always understand that evey news outlet has their own political view which tends to colour the information provided. I’m interested where people who don’t use “mainstream media” get their info from

Personally mostly from YouTube via a mix of independent commentators/journalists

 

[ronk]

Personally mostly from YouTube via a mix of independent commentators/journalists

Who are the independent commentators/ journalists you pay credence to ?

 

[Flyingfifer]

Who are the independent commentators/ journalists you pay credence to ?

People like Tim Pool, The Lotus Eaters, So What You're Saying Is, Triggernometry, The New Culture Forum, Maximilien Robespierre, M101 News, Steven Crowder, The Quartering, Count Dankula, TalkRadio, LBC Radio the latter two there being arguably mainstream. There are a bunch more.

 

[Old-Duckman]

I tend to get my news from several different sources and always understand that evey news outlet has their own political view which tends to colour the information provided. I’m interested where people who don’t use “mainstream media” get their info from

Excellent question and surely effects ones outlook on this topic and all others.

I guess the best way for me to answer is by thinking which site I go to when I first start my computer...that would be Rense.com. A link site which covers soup to nuts. Some would think heavy on the “nut” part but I find many links there that are of interest. Secondly would probably be WhatFinger but that is more USA centered.

Videos, Brighteon and a rather new one, BrandNewTube. I also check NewsBeforeItsNews but I do liken it to the National Enquirer, lots of crap but every now and again they hit one out of the ballpark.

 

[Z4C_er]

The way I would answer this is to take a step back and see what the MSM is telling you and 'what is the lean'. Then search around for other news sources and see what their 'lean' is. What I have found is that the MSM are clearly aligned to tell a particular story and keep you informed via a particular 'narrative'. See my previous post from earlier today. The BBC are clearly about fear-mongering and not about sharing good news facts. Yes, these are facts. But no, they want to scare and keep up the fear campaign.
You have been now shared a number of news sources to investigate.
I recall a joke I got told a long time ago......
Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Only one, but the lightbulb has got to want to change!
It will be easy for most people to pick apart and discredit some of these information sources if they want. Just like it's easy for me to see what MSM is doing.
Look at the alternative sources, keep an open mind, and ask questions.
Here's an example: last night I watched a video about SpaceX and their current launch schedule etc. One of the topics covered was about Elon's issue with the FAA and why that was? They asked the question (rhetorically) was it to do with Elon's political lean and his moving of one of the plants to Texas, a Republican state?
Well today, here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvroMAg_7is&feature=youtu.be
Why does a SpaceX fan-boy news channel's video get pulled because they pose a question that most ask?
On one of the other youtube SpaceX news channels they have moderators working around the clock pulling any negative comments down about Biden. I've seen it with my own eyes. Chat comments disappearing as they are typed.
You have to ask, what kind of democratic system is this?

 

[Old-Duckman]

You have to ask, what kind of democratic system is this?

Absolutely, the answer is that it is not any kind of democratic system, it is the ushering in of a globalist...dare I say it, New World Order, one world government. As I have commented several times in this thread...control. If you want to boil it down to one word, that is the word.

Evil power hungry “people” whose driving force is power. Power and control, they go hand in hand.

 

[ronk]

There’s always been people in control and there always will be - what does does the alternative society look like?

 

[Flyingfifer]

There’s always been people in control and there always will be - what does does the alternative society look like?

Its already happening, people are finding their own information, they are seeking the truth rather than listening to the likes of BBC, CNN, Fox etc those networks are dying a death and its accelerating thats why big tech is now trying to isolate and eradicate alternative platforms and voices, they are scared

 

[Z4C_er]

There’s always been people in control and there always will be - what does does the alternative society look like?

Society needs people in control. There is no argument for that.
What are you asking?

 

[ronk]

It was a response to old duckmans comment:-

“Evil power hungry “people” whose driving force is power. Power and control, they go hand in hand.”

 

[Old-Duckman]

There’s always been people in control and there always will be - what does does the alternative society look like?

Society needs people in control. There is no argument for that.

What are you asking?

I disagree, we as a society need people in positions of authority but not controlling the populace. To me there is a very distinct difference.

And what would an alternate society look like? I don’t mean to sound jingoistic but I think it should look like America in her “glory days, if you will, post WWII. Freedom of expression, self determination, pride in country, not overtaxed or over regulated. An education system that taught you how to think not what to think.

I could go on but I think you understand what I would hope to see. Sadly I doubt I will ever see that in what remains of my life on this globe...mores the pity.

 

[Z4C_er]

There’s always been people in control and there always will be - what does does the alternative society look like?

Society needs people in control. There is no argument for that.

What are you asking?

I disagree, we as a society need people in positions of authority but not controlling the populace. To me there is a very distinct difference.

And what would an alternate society look like? I don’t mean to sound jingoistic but I think it should look like America in her “glory days, if you will, post WWII. Freedom of expression, self determination, pride in country, not overtaxed or over regulated. An education system that taught you how to think not what to think.

I could go on but I think you understand what I would hope to see. Sadly I doubt I will ever see that in what remains of my life on this globe...mores the pity.

My words were perhaps too black and white. But we as humans need a sense of governance and provision. But overall a fair and transparent system.

 

[ronk]

And what would an alternate society look like? I don’t mean to sound jingoistic but I think it should look like America in her “glory days, if you will, post WWII. Freedom of expression, self determination, pride in country, not overtaxed or over regulated. An education system that taught you how to think not what to think.

I think there might be a few Black people over there who might not see freedom in the same way as you!

 

[AndyBeech]

Another reason why I hate the BBC. These are today's figures:

But this is today's BBC coronavirus page. No such 'good' news. They truly need to be de-funded.


The vaccine, the vaccine, the vaccine.....

Couldn't agree more with that. Whenever there seems to be some good news for a change the BBC always seems to make sure it has that bad news story ready in the locker to make sure the fear is still there. Happened all the time near the start of the pandemic, Teenager of 16 dies from Coronavirus with no apparent health conditions, few days later transpires he did actually have underlying issues, that bit doesn't get reported though. Is obviously not good but a lot of facts always seem to be missing.
The amount of 20 marathon's a week type people that now can't get up off the sofa because of long Covid....Not trying to downplay any of this but it does all get a bit much every day to be honest.

 

[Old-Duckman]

I think there might be a few Black people over there who might not see freedom in the same way as you!

There will never be a perfect society as we are all imperfect creatures.

America has worked hard to correct its mistakes. Slavery and abuse of indigenous peoples can not be denied or swept under the rug. One cannot change the past but only endeavor to do better in the future. I think America as a whole has achieved that goal.

Hate is being used and encouraged by (are you ready for it) those in control who are actively trying to destroy this country from within.

 

[ronk]

Is ITV news any different?
From the odd clips I’ve seen it’s exactly the same yet nobody bangs on about bias on that channel ?

 

[Argyll Andy]

On the subject of “The jab” I got a phone call about an hour ago, get mine on Thursday.

Delighted to increase my protection levels as much as I possibly can

 

[ronk]

I think there might be a few Black people over there who might not see freedom in the same way as you!

There will never be a perfect society as we are all imperfect creatures.

America has worked hard to correct its mistakes. Slavery and abuse of indigenous peoples can not be denied or swept under the rug. One cannot change the past but only endeavor to do better in the future. I think America as a whole has achieved that goal.

Hate is being used and encouraged by (are you ready for it) those in control who are actively trying to destroy this country from within.

You particularly spoke of the halcyon days of post ww2 in the USA my comment was to remind you that it was far from perfect for the vast majority of Black people in society - Yet you say this is what it should look like - America on its glory days you said.

 

[Z4C_er]

Is ITV news any different?
From the odd clips I’ve seen it’s exactly the same yet nobody bangs on about bias on that channel ?

It's part of the MSM, so, no.