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Post by r2uzenblot » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:39 pm

I see a high profile sprinter person amassed 29 points on her licence, didn't respond to letters asking for the identity of the driver and has previously committed a number of other offences. What a lenient penalty - .........a fine of £276, a surcharge of £110 and £85 costs. Having spent over 20 years on the bench the sentencing guidelines for someone who was a prolific offender would be a bit more than what was awarded.

Is it a surprise that the police might stop someone who has multiple points on their licence (11 at the time)? You can't mention this though as you'd be called a racist...............
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Post by Rockhopper » Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:18 pm

It certainly used to be the case that the Police don't have access to the number of points on your licence and they are not allowed to ask you about it when you are stopped (as it might prejudice their later decisions). However what happens these days is that the officer may recognise someone they have previously reported for prosecution and stop them again just in case. I also know that they visit homes of drivers they know have been banned to see if the car is in the drive or not!

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Post by Nictrix » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:06 pm

I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.
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Post by Nanu » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:44 pm

Nictrix wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:06 pm I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.
Is it the same person who was stopped with her boyfriend and claimed it was racism despite the windows of the car being, how can I say, unable to be seen through?
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Post by Mr Tidy » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:50 pm

If it's who I think it is she did get a 6 month ban, and 18 of those 29 points for not making a driver declaration on 3 separate occasions.

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Post by pvr » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:40 pm

You mean she who cannot be mentioned could not name her boyfriend as he would lose his Amazon drivers job …

Not difficult to find though, who is insured on the car. Hmm, two people and it wasn’t you
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Post by SV8Predator » Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:14 pm

r2uzenblot wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:39 pm Is it a surprise that the police might stop someone who has multiple points on their licence (11 at the time)? You can't mention this though as you'd be called a racist...............

How would the police know that the (so far unidentified) driver of a car has "multiple points on their licence"?

I'm sure, having spent over 20 years on the bench, you'll be able to answer?
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Post by Nictrix » Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:31 pm

Nanu wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:44 pm
Nictrix wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:06 pm I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.
Is it the same person who was stopped with her boyfriend and claimed it was racism despite the windows of the car being, how can I say, unable to be seen through?
Im sure it is
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Post by BeeEmm » Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:47 pm

I used to have two boys and a girl. Now I have two Men and a Woman. :?

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Post by r2uzenblot » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:39 am

Nictrix wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:31 pm
Nanu wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:44 pm
Nictrix wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:06 pm I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.
Is it the same person who was stopped with her boyfriend and claimed it was racism despite the windows of the car being, how can I say, unable to be seen through?
Im sure it is
SV8Predator wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:14 pm
r2uzenblot wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:39 pm Is it a surprise that the police might stop someone who has multiple points on their licence (11 at the time)? You can't mention this though as you'd be called a racist...............

How would the police know that the (so far unidentified) driver of a car has "multiple points on their licence"?

I'm sure, having spent over 20 years on the bench, you'll be able to answer?
I was on the bench and not in the police force but from my time there I was told that police do put out markers on car registrations. This could be for possible criminal activity, repeat offending from someone driving that vehicle or a number of other related things. So, yes, I believe that the police are able to tell through ANPR if the vehicle is one that has been drawn to their attention in the past.
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Post by SV8Predator » Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:33 pm

r2uzenblot wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:39 am I believe that the police are able to tell through ANPR if the vehicle is one that has been drawn to their attention in the past.
Certainly, if the car is "marked". That is what "marked" means. But a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.
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Post by r2uzenblot » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:36 pm

SV8Predator wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:33 pm
r2uzenblot wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:39 am I believe that the police are able to tell through ANPR if the vehicle is one that has been drawn to their attention in the past.
Certainly, if the car is "marked". That is what "marked" means. But a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.
That's not quite true. Again it depends what the points were for. If there is a propensity to commit offences then there can be a marker on the car. It can be for criminal activities, it can be anti-social behaviour and it can be for repeat traffic offences that attract points. A good example of this is a driver with a bald tyre who then gets done for two more different offences for bald tyres within a relatively short time. The police may well have a marker on his vehicle to be stopped to check that he no longer is driving with bald tyres.
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Post by SV8Predator » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:34 pm

r2uzenblot wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:36 pmAgain it depends what the points were for.
You keep twisting and bending the semantics to try to make a case for your blatantly wrong supposition.

Again, a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.
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Post by Rockhopper » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:37 am

- Stolen Vehicle Marker: Indicates that the vehicle has been reported as stolen.
- Suspected Vehicle Marker: Used when the vehicle is suspected of being involved in criminal activities.
- Witness Vehicle Marker: Designates a vehicle that witnessed a crime or an incident of interest.
- Abandoned Vehicle Marker: Applied to vehicles that have been abandoned or left in restricted areas.
- ANPR Marker: Associated with Automatic Number Plate Recognition systems to monitor vehicles of interest.

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Post by pvr » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:13 am

DWB marker - driving whilst black

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